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	<title>Comments on: Stuff Guys Will Never Want to Do But Women Are Convinced They Will</title>
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		<title>By: 'Nuf said</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-259137</link>
		<dc:creator>'Nuf said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything about that post just rubbed me the wrong way. His rationalisation of stereotypical yet destructive male behaviour (destructive to healthy long-term relationships, that is) was the most obvious thing, although not the only one, and I was already writing a nice, scathing comment in my head when I reached the bottom of the post... and realized that there&#039;s no need. I was expecting a bunch of &quot;hell yeah&quot; and &quot;Amen to that, brother!&quot; comments; instead, it would seem that there are enough men who could see through the author&#039;s bravado to call him out on it.

All I want to add is that I really hope he finds other ways to connect with his wife, emotionally and intellectually, since he so openly disapproves of the most common ways women try to include their partners in their life. I have been in a happy, monogamous marriage for 9 years. We don&#039;t like shopping together, and there are definitely some other things we do alone because the other one does not like it. But then we find things we both like, and we compromise on our own egocentric schedules to make time for the other one.

Relationships aren&#039;t about the stuff we do per se, it&#039;s about connection and trust, and the slow building/eroding of that over the years – and that is where &quot;stuff&quot; suddenly become important. For me as a woman, it&#039;s not about the shopping, or a man &quot;looking at things&quot;, it&#039;s about feeling loved and secure as HIS woman. If you don&#039;t like to walk, take a drive instead and make an outing of it. If you refuse to shop with her, do something else together like taking her out to dinner. If you don&#039;t want to look at drape patterns, at least choose to be tactful instead of hostile and boorish. When a man continually refuses to be his partner&#039;s PARTNER, she might just end up where @Annoyed said she might, with one of his &quot;more considerate guy friends&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about that post just rubbed me the wrong way. His rationalisation of stereotypical yet destructive male behaviour (destructive to healthy long-term relationships, that is) was the most obvious thing, although not the only one, and I was already writing a nice, scathing comment in my head when I reached the bottom of the post&#8230; and realized that there&#8217;s no need. I was expecting a bunch of &#8220;hell yeah&#8221; and &#8220;Amen to that, brother!&#8221; comments; instead, it would seem that there are enough men who could see through the author&#8217;s bravado to call him out on it.</p>
<p>All I want to add is that I really hope he finds other ways to connect with his wife, emotionally and intellectually, since he so openly disapproves of the most common ways women try to include their partners in their life. I have been in a happy, monogamous marriage for 9 years. We don&#8217;t like shopping together, and there are definitely some other things we do alone because the other one does not like it. But then we find things we both like, and we compromise on our own egocentric schedules to make time for the other one.</p>
<p>Relationships aren&#8217;t about the stuff we do per se, it&#8217;s about connection and trust, and the slow building/eroding of that over the years – and that is where &#8220;stuff&#8221; suddenly become important. For me as a woman, it&#8217;s not about the shopping, or a man &#8220;looking at things&#8221;, it&#8217;s about feeling loved and secure as HIS woman. If you don&#8217;t like to walk, take a drive instead and make an outing of it. If you refuse to shop with her, do something else together like taking her out to dinner. If you don&#8217;t want to look at drape patterns, at least choose to be tactful instead of hostile and boorish. When a man continually refuses to be his partner&#8217;s PARTNER, she might just end up where @Annoyed said she might, with one of his &#8220;more considerate guy friends&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-258349</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[look, i love my baby and just yesterday i went dress shopping (just shuddered a little) and i kept a smile on my face the entire time. i told her my honest opinion on everything she tried on. after that we went on a half hour walk in the woods, just talking and holding hands. but i guess that&#039;s just what you do for the ones you love...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look, i love my baby and just yesterday i went dress shopping (just shuddered a little) and i kept a smile on my face the entire time. i told her my honest opinion on everything she tried on. after that we went on a half hour walk in the woods, just talking and holding hands. but i guess that&#8217;s just what you do for the ones you love&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: catriona</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-251554</link>
		<dc:creator>catriona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a chicks perspective I sure don&#039;t wanna watch football/wrassling or any other kinda crap like that. Especially,nekkid wummen of any kind or description. 
I would rather go hiking in some beautiful forest or get down with some serious shopping!!
Yeah baby!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a chicks perspective I sure don&#8217;t wanna watch football/wrassling or any other kinda crap like that. Especially,nekkid wummen of any kind or description.<br />
I would rather go hiking in some beautiful forest or get down with some serious shopping!!<br />
Yeah baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Dotdotdot</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-249958</link>
		<dc:creator>Dotdotdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mostly agree with the last two posts.

Sure is sexism in here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mostly agree with the last two posts.</p>
<p>Sure is sexism in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Wow. Really?</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-200195</link>
		<dc:creator>Wow. Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to me like you&#039;re a bit of an asshole, and I can&#039;t believe that you can sit here and bitch about shit like this. Walking? Really? Errands together? Women try to do things that include their partners, because we want to please our men, whether it means picking out a new set of drapes or a sexy piece of lingerie. You&#039;re going to have to live with the choices that we make, just like we are, and we would rather get a sour &quot;That one!&quot; than have to deal with you later on complaining about the way it looks. The truth is that everyone should want to meet their partner on their own level at some point. There is, of course a fine line of give and take, but honestly? I&#039;m surprised you&#039;ve ever been with a woman at all with an attitude like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me like you&#8217;re a bit of an asshole, and I can&#8217;t believe that you can sit here and bitch about shit like this. Walking? Really? Errands together? Women try to do things that include their partners, because we want to please our men, whether it means picking out a new set of drapes or a sexy piece of lingerie. You&#8217;re going to have to live with the choices that we make, just like we are, and we would rather get a sour &#8220;That one!&#8221; than have to deal with you later on complaining about the way it looks. The truth is that everyone should want to meet their partner on their own level at some point. There is, of course a fine line of give and take, but honestly? I&#8217;m surprised you&#8217;ve ever been with a woman at all with an attitude like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annoyed...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My main issue is that the author insinuates that all women are morons at the end of the article (no one else notice this?). I think the author made himself look very close-minded and kind of sexist, and I fully agree with Notanidiotlikeyou - sometimes compromises just have to be made in a relationship. There is always a lot of give and take...

I&#039;ve been in a monogamous relationship for nearly 3 years. We try (to the best of both of our abilities, because no one is perfect) to work as a team on issues. You know, sometimes we forget a couple of things and we have to stop at a couple of stores - it happens. Sometimes we sit down and decide where a new piece of furniture will go, or go on walks with our dog together.

I understand I may actually be an exception - I&#039;m one of those rare chicks that hates shopping and decorating. But I know I have a lot of personal hobbies and interests that my boyfriend doesn&#039;t like, and it works both ways.

The author makes it sound like all women are trying to change men (and yet I&#039;ve met many men that have tried to change me!), but I think relationships are about accepting certain parts of each other that we may not necessarily like, compromising on issues, discovering new common interests together, learning to work as a team (i.e., not be selfish!) and above all, allowing the other person to still have some sort of identity. I go to art films with my sister; he has the guys over for the Super Bowl. And yet we still always meet back up to go see action flicks and eat pizza.

And dude, if you&#039;re not doing that, well, I just feel sorry for you. 

And especially for your wife...She&#039;s probably banging one of your more considerate guy friends right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main issue is that the author insinuates that all women are morons at the end of the article (no one else notice this?). I think the author made himself look very close-minded and kind of sexist, and I fully agree with Notanidiotlikeyou &#8211; sometimes compromises just have to be made in a relationship. There is always a lot of give and take&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in a monogamous relationship for nearly 3 years. We try (to the best of both of our abilities, because no one is perfect) to work as a team on issues. You know, sometimes we forget a couple of things and we have to stop at a couple of stores &#8211; it happens. Sometimes we sit down and decide where a new piece of furniture will go, or go on walks with our dog together.</p>
<p>I understand I may actually be an exception &#8211; I&#8217;m one of those rare chicks that hates shopping and decorating. But I know I have a lot of personal hobbies and interests that my boyfriend doesn&#8217;t like, and it works both ways.</p>
<p>The author makes it sound like all women are trying to change men (and yet I&#8217;ve met many men that have tried to change me!), but I think relationships are about accepting certain parts of each other that we may not necessarily like, compromising on issues, discovering new common interests together, learning to work as a team (i.e., not be selfish!) and above all, allowing the other person to still have some sort of identity. I go to art films with my sister; he has the guys over for the Super Bowl. And yet we still always meet back up to go see action flicks and eat pizza.</p>
<p>And dude, if you&#8217;re not doing that, well, I just feel sorry for you. </p>
<p>And especially for your wife&#8230;She&#8217;s probably banging one of your more considerate guy friends right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Spain</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-195872</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those guys who think he&#039;s insensitive: There are probably other things that *you* don&#039;t like doing that your wife thinks you should do. We all have pet peeves and even if we find the person of our dreams that we will love forever, there will be at least one clash of opinions. That&#039;s what makes life so interesting and worth living. It&#039;s probably not the same 4 things for all guys like Natty suggests, but you probably have a list of &quot;4 things my wife insists I will like that I never will.&quot; I know mine include Looking at decor and houses and Going clothes/shoe shopping, but walks and trips to places are fine for me. :D

Women: Can you seriously tell me that you are with a guy that wants to do everything that you want to do without nagging and begging? I bet your boyfriend/fiance/husband has a list of things he hates doing and will always hate doing, and does them just to appease you. I bet you also have a list of things that you hate and will always hate as well. Drinking beer, watching sports, and many other things.

Lastly Linda: This &quot;we&quot; that women &quot;adapt&quot; to is often a selfish idea-centric view on what a relationship should be, without considering the two people involved. In truth, the women who do it are already relationship-biased and trying to fit their partner into it is just pure selfishness. I do believe that people in a relationship need to work out TOGETHER what&#039;s best for both parties in the long run, but women &quot;adapting&quot; to a relationship is just them trying to change their boyfriend into what they want and then disguising it behind &quot;but it&#039;s for &#039;us&#039;.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those guys who think he&#8217;s insensitive: There are probably other things that *you* don&#8217;t like doing that your wife thinks you should do. We all have pet peeves and even if we find the person of our dreams that we will love forever, there will be at least one clash of opinions. That&#8217;s what makes life so interesting and worth living. It&#8217;s probably not the same 4 things for all guys like Natty suggests, but you probably have a list of &#8220;4 things my wife insists I will like that I never will.&#8221; I know mine include Looking at decor and houses and Going clothes/shoe shopping, but walks and trips to places are fine for me. <img src='http://cdn.uncoached.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Women: Can you seriously tell me that you are with a guy that wants to do everything that you want to do without nagging and begging? I bet your boyfriend/fiance/husband has a list of things he hates doing and will always hate doing, and does them just to appease you. I bet you also have a list of things that you hate and will always hate as well. Drinking beer, watching sports, and many other things.</p>
<p>Lastly Linda: This &#8220;we&#8221; that women &#8220;adapt&#8221; to is often a selfish idea-centric view on what a relationship should be, without considering the two people involved. In truth, the women who do it are already relationship-biased and trying to fit their partner into it is just pure selfishness. I do believe that people in a relationship need to work out TOGETHER what&#8217;s best for both parties in the long run, but women &#8220;adapting&#8221; to a relationship is just them trying to change their boyfriend into what they want and then disguising it behind &#8220;but it&#8217;s for &#8216;us&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Notanidiotlikeyou</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-195699</link>
		<dc:creator>Notanidiotlikeyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 05:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a weirdo. It is probably safe to say this guy hasn&#039;t had many lasting relationships. I also have to agree with an above post...there is so much shit guys do that annoys women to no end. A lot of you are also total neanderthals who would be living on bologna sandwiches, in dirty apartments...sitting in the dark because you can&#039;t be bothered to remember to pay the bills on time. Women put up with a whole lot of bullshit, not to mention couples with kids, and your version of a man thinks it is like walking on hot coals to do something to make your SO happy? Pretty sure your wife doesn&#039;t like washing your dank skid marked undies or the taste of your cum...but you can keep dreaming if you&#039;d like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a weirdo. It is probably safe to say this guy hasn&#8217;t had many lasting relationships. I also have to agree with an above post&#8230;there is so much shit guys do that annoys women to no end. A lot of you are also total neanderthals who would be living on bologna sandwiches, in dirty apartments&#8230;sitting in the dark because you can&#8217;t be bothered to remember to pay the bills on time. Women put up with a whole lot of bullshit, not to mention couples with kids, and your version of a man thinks it is like walking on hot coals to do something to make your SO happy? Pretty sure your wife doesn&#8217;t like washing your dank skid marked undies or the taste of your cum&#8230;but you can keep dreaming if you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-194865</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jason
 You mean accept....? fail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason<br />
 You mean accept&#8230;.? fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Omniture</title>
		<link>http://www.uncoached.com/2010/09/27/stuff-guys-will-never-want-to-do/#comment-192851</link>
		<dc:creator>Omniture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless she&#039;s jsut that hott where she can get away with most of it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless she&#8217;s jsut that hott where she can get away with most of it!</p>
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